Kristy Morris

Hi, how are you?

Okay, uh, well, my name is Kristy Morris. I'm from Brisbane. Um, I'm co-founder of **Kylio Wellness Medispa**, which is a wellness clinic in Brisbane at the Calile Hotel that offers everything from skin treatments to massage to IV to cosmetic. It's sort of your one-stop shop for all things that you want to do to look after yourself. Uh, and then since that journey started in 2018.

Six years.

Six years. Uh, we started with six employees and now I've grown to 33 practitioners in the business.

And then in 2022, I founded **Kylio Nutrition**, which is a high-dose collagen and super blended greens for your gut health, uh, sleep health, and your immune system health.

Um, so when my son, who's now 15, when he was four years old, we were on a journey with him with severe **OCD** and **sensory processing**. And what was offered to us at the time in Brisbane was medication. And I just felt like for my little four-year-old boy, that wasn't necessarily the direction I wanted to go down. Yeah. So I just started searching the web. Long story short, ended up Google, Dr. Google. Um, and I was introduced to a friend who was, uh, in the US doing some treatment for her daughter who had autism.

Uh, so, um, ended up moving to LA doing different modalities over there.

And was able to completely reverse it, um, within two years and him to have a, like, completely normal life.

A lot of it was through diet. Seeing a pediatrician out of Florida who specializes in, um, doing the like the genetic test and then supplementing him basing it on his like mutations, basically.

Yes. So he had, um, certain genes that weren't functioning or powering right, which was then creating him to have the OCD. So he wasn't holding methyl B12 for example. Okay. Within six weeks of him having little mini injections, the OCD was gone. Um, the sensory processing, we had to do a program in LA that was, um, basically complex exercises done in a way to retrain the brain from birth.

Yes, not similar. Um, but it's like you will stand there, for example, and you'll throw a ball against the wall like behind your head, turn around and catch it, but your eyes are closed. So it was all about that. Um, creating new brain, brain fibers, um, and doing everything the opposite. Not explaining it very well. It's something you have to see to understand it. And the 12-week program. So and the NFL players also do it to be, um, like sharper with their skills.

Yeah. So what happened while living there, um, I had met my business partner in Brisbane for the Medispa. She was on a similar journey. And when she met me just in the playland at school, I was telling her what we were doing in LA. Um, we literally met that day. Two weeks later, she called me. She said, "I'm coming with you." So her and I were on a journey as two moms with our boys.

And then we just looked at all the things that were happening in LA and thought there's a big gap in Australia with that luxury wellness together. Um, and people are time poor, who wants to go to ten places for appointments across a week?

So Kylio Wellness Medispa was born.

Yes, I do.

I do. I, um,

Uh, I would say I've definitely come a long way. So it was brought on by having Ross River fever. Often, uh, some form of virus can then lay dormant and then kick in your bad genes and next you know you have autoimmune. So in 2020, I was struggling a lot with I just gained all this weight. But I was eating really healthy. I couldn't exercise anymore. I was tight. I actually didn't know. I just thought it was the Ross River. Found out that I had Hashimoto's.

I went and did some Bloods. And then they said, "Oh, your antibodies are sky high. Your hormones are all out of whack." Um, and so then I went on a journey of naturally I'm always going to find what are other options instead of taking medication first. Not that I'm against it. But that's just me personally. And I, um,

Yes, I was using it.

So, um, I was really struggling. I was doing NAD IVs twice a week just to keep working every day. And I thought, "Well, that's not sustainable either." Um, so I went on low-dose naltrexone and brought my antibodies down. I was able to start working out again.

I started on 0.5. I couldn't handle it initially. And then over two years, I got to the 4.5, which is where I'm at now. And then I went on an anti-inflammatory program with a gentleman I'd met in New York called Jay Cardiello. And that was only a year ago. And I think he has completely transformed my life.

Oh, 100% through diet. Yeah, yeah. So removing all inflammation. It is. Absolutely. Yeah. And then stem cell treatment in November. So I'm still waiting to see how that pans out for me. My goal is to then come off the low-dose naltrexone and be like medication free. I was on it and I'm off it.

Mhm.

Yeah, I have heard a lot about. I do take vitamin D as well. And I have heard that that and I was tested for iodine and I was so low. But your normal doctor won't test for that. So you have to go a different route to get to the bottom of it. Yeah.

Yes, I do. The reason I do is I do a spray every morning.

Yeah. I, I just take it in a, um, liquid form every morning. And I just microdose it now. I don't need the higher dose. So yeah.

Yeah. I think **gut health** was 50% of Australians have gut issues. Um, and I think probably many people, I was going to say more that don't even know. And it's interesting when you start looking after your gut, you don't realize how bad you were feeling before.

So we worked, we, we were constantly seeing it in the Medispa and scripting people out of the business through our naturopath to go and take supplements. And that's why we created the Kylio Nutrition because everyone was suffering from gut issues. That was coming in. That was the number one problem. And since going down that road, um, it is our hero product. And people are, um, we've actually had people come in like crying. "You've literally turned around my life." Just from. And more so in the celiac space as well. Um, but I think the future as well with mental health, like if people understood that connection, um, we would be able to help a lot more people.

Well, I can only go on my own experience and what practitioners in the business would tell me. But it's always reacting to foods. So you go to dinner and then after you've eaten your stomach's hurting, um, bloating, um, people often, you know, have constipation or or the other. Like it's one or the other. Yeah. Um, and when it starts to affect your day, if it's affecting your every single day where you're thinking about your gut, you definitely have a problem. Or they're not absorbing vitamins.

You can't absorb it through the gut.

And you finding a lot of people around you are struggling with iron because that seems to be a bit of an epidemic too. Where people aren't, and it's because of the gut issues and the toxins that are in our body, we're not absorbing nutrients anymore.

Yes, I saw that. Yeah.

So we have, uh, Feel Well, which is high-dose collagen peptides. And then we have L-glutamine, aloe vera, prebiotics, probiotics. So it's in one formula. And then you just drink it in the morning. And most people within two weeks will start to notice a difference. Obviously, longer term, if you have gut issues, you need to be looking at your diet no matter what. That's the first thing you should do. And you should always be seeing somebody that knows what they're doing. Yeah. But for the everyday person who may not choose to go down that direction or have that education side where they want to learn, um, it's a great support to feel better. Yeah, that's how we look at it.

We do have, uh, a **longevity product** coming in a couple of months.

That we formulated. Um, what's it's got, you, you, I can never say Urolithin in it. Uh, CoQ10. No, I'm... No, it's, um, it's what all a lot of sports people take it. And we've formulated, um, it does have creatine in it as well. Okay. We've actually formulated it with an ex-NBA player who was really passionate about his journey as an NBA player. But yet you're not given necessary the best foods. And so he went down this road. So we've worked them with a naturopath, nutritionist to make sure, give us all the best ingredients. Chuck it in there. And then we'll get someone else to formulate it, basically. And then we've worked with our naturopath, nutritionist to make sure that those work well together. And then we have gone to our manufacturer. And we're just going down the road now. And we have also worked with a leading fertility specialist. And we're, um, also launching fertility products later this year. Because that's a very growing that and menopause and premenopause. Obviously a huge right now. But it's, um, something we're really excited about.

Yes.

I take obviously all of Kylio Nutrition. So the sleep health is my personal favorite because I have worked really hard on my gut health. So I don't need to take the gut health as often. I feel for me, **high-dose Vitamin C** is really important. Uh, **probiotics**, really good probiotic. But you need to know that you're on the right strain because you can go too far the other way. So you definitely need to work with a practitioner on that. I take all my **super greens**. I feel are really important. Yeah. Um, I do **NAD**.

Just do little self-injection. The little ways at like 100 milligram or 200.

200. How often would you do a 200?

I do it once a month. Yeah. And **glutathione** is another really important one.

Oh, especially if you're struggling with any form of like brain fog or exhaustion, stress, burnout, definitely.

I think what we've noticed in clinic is men seem to get more of adrenaline rush and the female side seems to feel more unwell. Yeah. So men seem to be able to do do the IV much faster as well.

Yes. Well, I'm with you. Yeah. I, I used to do the IV all the time. I just don't have the time.

Correct. It's a, it's a journey.

Yeah. Glutathione has been something I've been passionate about since my son started his journey because they were giving him glutathione. So that's when I learned about really how it also supports with, yeah. So they would, um, little patches for him. Obviously not IVs or, um, and we saw a big difference in his behavior when we first started that journey as well.

Yeah. There's a brand called Lifewave that do the glutathione patches.

It was more about around the, um, antioxidants that support the brain for the regulation of his behaviors. So they do it a lot also for children who have autism. It's apparently really amazing for them as well. Yeah, you know that. Yeah.

Oh gosh, I feel like I take so many. And I'm just trying to think of **Vitamin D**, 100% with you on the Vitamin D. Um, Vitamin with K2. With K2.

And take with K2 can get calcified. And nighttime I always take **L-theanine**. And that is just for me personally, living, um, a busy lifestyle and traveling a lot for work.

Uh, I do. I do. And then every now and then, um, I, I won't like, I'll go through a period of like a week or two where I used to be shocking.

I used to be the worst. And that's definitely a Hashimoto's thyroid issue. Um, but you can't sleep very well. And I think also just have come out of burnout. Yeah, it definitely went down a burnout stage.

Yes, I take, um, **passion flower**. It's all in the sleep or formula. So passion flower, tart cherry, which helps your body create its own melatonin. I'm not a fan of taking melatonin. I think you need to be very careful.

Okay, great. Let's talk about that.

Okay.

Oh, wow. Very high dose that is. Were you tired the next day? 'Cause that makes me groggy the next day.

Yeah, I have heard, um, people talk about that side of melatonin. It for me personally, I just don't like the way it makes me feel the next day. Yeah, it's a I get that groggy feeling. And I know some people get that, some people don't. But for me, and methyl B12 is, is something I, I don't miss. I take that every month as well. It's very, like, just once a month I do an injection.

It's already in the Kylio Nutrition. So yes, I do. But I, it's all in one.

Yeah, magnolia bark, I don't know anything about.

Wow. I have not heard about this. I need into it. Because I also didn't sleep well last night, which I had been sleeping like a dream for weeks. And I'm like, "Why am I?" It was like, and you just keep like, "Why am I?" Was it getting into sleep or trying to stay asleep?

Yeah. No, it is. It's not with your health, it takes lives of like the end of your life. And I've got friends who are genetically gifted in that area. Friend of mine, every night, almost 100% sleep score. No supplements, no nothing. Whereas I'm taking this and that. I've always been a notoriously bad sleeper. Yeah. So it is partly genetic, unfortunately.

Yes.

Big question on the expansion. We've had a couple opportunities over the years to expand and each time we've gotten closer, I've not wanted to go down that road.

I just feel we've done really well with our reputation and to manage people at that level every single day from an elevation. I'm really particular around culture. Yeah. And then if we've had a lot of opportunity down in Melbourne and come down to Melbourne.

Now we're in different spaces. And I think it's just, it's got to be the right location. We're in the Calile Hotel. So it's the perfect location. How do we match that? You know, it's been a big question for us. We almost went down into Sorrento around that COVID time. And then we realized that was not the right.

It was the staffing. I always look at your people are your business. They everything.

Sydney. Again, it, this, it would be hard to find the space. I think we're almost a 400 square meter space. Like finding that space in a beautiful location.

I think the interesting thing is the clientele is probably only 15% of our business. We have a huge Brisbane. We have people following. We have people from Melbourne and Sydney fly up to come to our clinic. They'll stay for a week. I think it has given us great traction to have the Calile behind us. It's such a beautiful, such a good brand.

So we've, it's finding that. My personal thoughts, we've also had opportunity in the US. Was Kylio Nutrition has gone into the US and launched. And we, we have interest. Do we do that?

Yeah, I think that's probably where my worry sits if I'm not there. How do I know that delivering that of service when you're you're dealing with people's health too? Like whether it's their skin health, whatever you're doing, it's a big call. So you need to, um, but the nutritional side is, um, growing really fast for us. Um, we're launching, we've launched into the US. Launching, uh, I think today, you're buying on Saturday. We're launching over.

Thank you. In retail. Yeah. So we in the US, we've launched into **Neiman Marcus** in February last year. In two weeks, we launch into **Bloomingdale's**.

Um, yeah, it's been an ex, it's been a really fast 12 months. Um, and we're in **Erewhon Juiceries** in LA. I don't know if you've ever been to Erewhon Juiceries. They're sort of like the Airwan, but just standalone. They've been around a lot longer. So there's 24 of those stores. We launched into there. And then we're launching across 43 retail spaces in **Dubai** and opening a smoothie bar. Um,

Yeah, yeah. Well, in collaboration with them. So operationally them, but we're the brand if that makes sense. Yeah. And into **Kuwait** and, um, where else we? And then into **Germany**.

It's been, um, yeah, it's definitely been a wild ride and one that I'd never foresaw what's unfolded. So I think it's catching your breath and trying to make sure you're making good sound decisions as you go because is I'm trying to slow things down a little bit.

Amazing. She want to join the nutritional business. Her and her husband already have a successful business outside of the Medispa, doing coffee. So, um, they have been nothing but supportive and she's the first person to champion me when things unfold. And I think, um, just different stages of our lives too. Yeah, yeah.

Or. And that's a question I'm facing now because I've gone all in. Um,

All in. All in. Um, and my husband has had to leave his job to support and manage all the compliance for the countries. And, um, so then husband and wife sort of working together has been really an amazing journey of learning for us as well. Like we probably had our first few arguments and then we're like, "Well, this is tricky." And now we've come out the other side of that.

Yeah. And then he travels. I travel. So we're not, I'm not as a mom with three children leaving. I was struggling with always leaving. Yeah. I'd have to go to the US, set up, train, go across, you know, all the different states doing training. And then come home and then your kids are like, "Oh, where's Mom gone?" Yeah, yeah. So now at that stage of matching the opportunities, do we need to go down the road of investment? I feel like we're there. And we're starting to put decks together and go down that because otherwise what we could do in two years, might take us five or seven. Yeah, on our own. Um, even though my parents sometimes, like, "Oh, surely you can, you can just keep going." I'm like, "Gosh, it's hard though."

All of these things, I don't know enough about. So I'm trying to surround myself by the right people to learn. So that when that opportunity comes, we make a really good decision. And one that we don't regret. Yeah. So it's exciting.

We'll keep it as is. Um, and we do have some interest, um, in investors right now into that space to take it further. So we're just looking at that at the moment. Deciding if we go down that road.

Yeah, we, it is. It is. It's funny for Kath. Her name is Kath. Kath and I, um, we love Melbourne. And we always like if anywhere we would choose Melbourne.

Yes. They would just need to be at that boutique Calile vibe. Yeah. I don't know too many. I don't know Melbourne enough to know. I know there's one in Sydney. Is it Eva or something that's open in Sydney? Someone was saying, "Should have gone in there." Um, but yeah.

Okay. So lucky enough to see **Dr. Adil Khan**, the king.

He's the best. Uh, I had reached out to him to talk about our Wellness Summit that's coming up this year. And that's why he's come to Brisbane in May. He's coming to Brisbane and May. He'll be seeing patients at Kylio, uh, which is great. So when I initially reached out to him, his books were closed. And so we just had the conversation around him being a speaker. And then, um, they allowed us the opportunity to go see him in Dubai. And so I went, um, for mold. I had, we had a house that had really bad mold in. And we went through a really tough journey dealing with insurance here. I won't bore you.

Oh, yes. That's what you were talking about before. Yes. So if you've got mold in your body, basically HOAC, I think it's pronounced HOAC. It's, it's basically a giant egg and you sit in this device.

And within the device, it's a sauna. It goes up to about 50 degrees. Okay. And it also pumps in ozone over a 30-minute period. And over that 30 minutes, literally, heavy metals, mold is detoxified from your body over that 30-minute period. And as you leave the device up to 30 minutes, you see the heavy metals and the toxin and the mold on the ground.

In a positive way. I've been doing, I've done nine sessions in the past three weeks. Okay. And I use a white towel on the seat. And when I jump up, like, holy crap, there's heavy metals on the seat. And there was one woman who came in before me and she had been living in a house full of mold for 10 years. Her whole towel was black with mold.

I will definitely look into that because, um, we've only been out of the house for two years. And so when I to see Dr. Khan, he did the **natural killer cell treatment**. He said that should help with detoxifying some of the mold out of your system.

I didn't feel anything.

I don't look. I probably 50 million. Yeah, it was definitely in the millions. But I, I couldn't remember the exact dosage. Um, so yeah, that was November. And now I'm starting in the last week. I've started to see some changes. I'm not feeling the fatigue. I'm feeling like I get through a day normally. I'm mentally going to struggle. And I'm like, "Oh, I can keep going." That's like a positive.

I'm not 100% because it could be supplements. It could be there's so many things you and I do in our correct routine. To me, I'm like, "Is it this or is it that?" I genuinely don't know. And I even said to my husband, "I have started to see some changes." And he's he's noticed. Yeah, like I'm way more energetic. And he was like, "I can see the changes now." Whether it's the stem, I don't want to get too excited yet. I don't want to hold it that that's it because of course you want it to be, you want it to be the stem cells. And obviously you paid a lot of money for those stem cells. Please work. Yeah. And I, um, so let's I, I will see what happens over the next few weeks. If I continue to feel this way, I can't see why it wouldn't be. Because why would I just wake up and start feeling better? And I don't have, I normally would always wake up my eyes are always bloodshot and that's gone. Which that's great. I've noticed.

No, just the stem cells and and the cell **myostatin**. That's it. Yes.

For free or did you pay for it?

Okay.

Oh my gosh, they will like energize the bunnies within five days of having that. They both felt significantly different.

Yeah, if I, if I went to the gym and I, I just ate, okay. Uh, I, I think I put on six kilos in four weeks. Okay. It definitely does work. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's quite expensive still. So it's not for everyone. But I think the prices will come down eventually.

Only through skin needling for my face. It's illegal in Australia to do IV exosomes.

Yeah, we do. Yeah. For skin and hair.

We do. And I think it's not necessarily always understood. It's about the, you need to do it quite regularly to get that regeneration of the skin cells. So I think a lot of people do it once, I go, "I didn't see any benefit." Well, you need to go on a journey. Yeah. At least six to 12 times is what...

And I've spoken a lot. Once a month for 12 months.

Some people do it fortnightly. These things are expensive. So of course, it comes down to you want to see benefit sooner rather than later. What you will notice is a definite glow in your skin. People who have skin issues will probably see a benefit faster because it will start to reduce the inflammation. But I've spoken a lot to Dr. Khan around how often he's like, "If you have the means, you should be doing it fortnightly." And then for...

And then for hair growth. And for hair growth, we do it as well.

Well, they say every two weeks, I think up to eight times and then you go to monthly. Mhm. And I, um, have started that because I got a lot of hair loss through Hashimoto's. I've started the journey as well.

Yes. So basically PRF is PRP on steroids.

Yeah, face, neck, you can do your hands. Um, also great for any form of scarring. Post-Cesarean, there's lots of different. It's all in the technique.

So it's salmon sperm. I was going to say, friend of mine, I should say this. Call it salmon sprog.

So, um, yeah, we say salmon DNA because it's obviously a lot nicer to say. Um, when you say to people, "Salmon sperm," they're like, "Oh, am I putting that in my face?" Um, but yeah, the results are incredible. Like literally almost instant.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that yes, I genuinely, we've done a lot of before and afters. It's, it's about the fine, like they're really fine. And if you do it early enough, people who eventually do Botox or fillers, which are not good for you, um, not that I'm not an advocate. I've definitely done that in my lifetime. No, I'm definitely somebody who has done that. I'm not denying, um, having done.

I think any toxin you're putting into your system. That's fair. No matter what it is, whether it's, you know, skin product. You got to be careful on everything that you do. Even on products now, you should be read the label. There's an app. You can actually read the back of the label saying, uh, that is 10, 10, mean the worst. Zero means this is great for your skin or healthy.

Yeah. So yeah. So I think DNA will, salmon sperm will be the future. And there's so much more coming out with that company in the skincare as well. And people won't have to go down the road of injectables, which will be amazing.

Working in the cosmetic space, what would you recommend for people with eye bags? Uh, I think PRP, salmon DNA, exosomes. A no filler is a big one. Like we see a lot of people coming in actually a lot of men who come to Kylio for, um, under the eye.

Yeah. You got to be really careful. But there's one, um, that does brightening. But I personally think if you can do the salmon DNA, that's, that's the direction I would go down.

Yes. Yeah, there is. It is. It's...

Yes. Yeah. Have you done your neck?

I have been a bit more where we, because obviously you have your own clinic. Um, we mix it up in, have you ever seen the stamp? There a stamp with needles. And so I get the girls to mix up and stamp it in because I'm a bit of a scaredy cat. Whereas my business partner Kath is, "Oh, it's like little needles." Like little. Yeah. And you can stab it. So it still goes in deeper, but it doesn't, it's not as light. And I have found that to be.

Sunscreens are a must every day.

And mineral-based sunscreen.

Uh, I definitely think if you only could do one thing for anti-aging for your skin, and you'll hear a lot of plastic surgeons talk about this, **skin needling**. If there's only one thing you could do, like obviously doing your regime at home, you need to have a dermal therapist who can tell you what skincare is best for your skin because you and I would be different. Your wife and I would be different. But skin needling because of the trauma that it creates, then you get the collagen. And that is by far, if you can start early enough, again, avoiding having to do other things later.

Yes. So where you go the needle in first and then the exosomes on top. So what they do is they put the exosomes all over you and then they needle it in like with the skin needling pen. Yeah. So you can do that. You can do glutathione. You can needle that in as well, um, for brightening. Um, there's lots of different things you can needle in.

Every month, every four to six weeks.

It's not. It's not painful. It's uncomfortable. Like it's not like you're getting injections. It just is a bit because it starts to feel a bit raw as well because you go over once and then you go over again, fine. They also skin needle scarring.

But you need to make sure who you're seeing knows what they're doing. And that they understand that sometimes it will get, you can even with stretch marks or, um, scarring, things can look worse before they look better. So you need definitely need to make sure you're under the right care there. You need to make sure your your therapist is dermal qualified, which means degree qualified.

We do. We have, um, a machine that does the BBL and the hero. Yeah. So we, we have a couple of laser, laser specialists in the business that do that.

Well, if I'm being really honest, if any, I, I can honestly say the amount of travel I do right now is hard to bring in many things. Um, I'm often home for two or three weeks and then gone and then back and forth. So what I try to do is focus on, uh, making sure that I eat really well.

I meditate every day.

No, I do have meat. Okay. Yeah. Uh, I eat an anti-inflammatory food. So I stick to that journey. If I had the time right now and I, I'm 2025 is the year. I want to bring back doing **hyperbaric chamber** is definitely something I would bring back in. Massive fan. Massive fan. **Infrared sauna**.

Uh, there those two things. Path. Um, I haven't come on. Do it. It is if I could choose any one longevity hack, it would be an **ice bath**.

Okay. To me, everything else is secondary only because my body is prone to inflammation. Yes. As according to my genetics.

Yeah. And **sleep health**. Sleep is, if you, to me, if you're not sleeping well, nothing is functioning.

And looking after your gut health. But for longevity, yeah, hyperbarics, infrared. Yeah. NAD IVs if you can.

I eat 11:00. I do two meals a day. So I eat 11:00 and then dinner. That's it.

Well, coffee. I get up at 4:00.

I get up at 4:00, have a coffee by myself and then just like have an hour completely to myself.

Um, well, I've kind of been awake since 2:30 off and on. But...

I go to bed around 9:00, 9:30. And this morning and last night, uh, the same. Yeah, just, yeah. But if I was in my normal routine, I go to bed 9:00, 9:30. Wake up at 4:00. Yeah. Get up, coffee, an hour to myself. Think about what I need to do for the day. Plan what's happening for the week. Just get into that zone. Because then all the kids get up from 5:00. And then it's school routine.

The three kids. The, you know, I've got to go to football training, wherever. You've got to take everyone.

And three different schools. So that's a bit of a challenge. And then yeah, I go to work and I just get, I get excited to go. I never not want to go into work.

Oh, that's a big one. **Meditate**. Meditate. I would say meditate.

Minimum 15 minutes. Yeah. Um, yeah. Calming the brain and just breath work, some maybe three, five minutes of breath work. Okay. Excellent. Yeah.

What I'm seeing and I think there is a huge movement towards one, **wellness travel**. So people are going to different hotels around the world where they have the doctors. And you do the genetic testing before you arrive. And it's that personalization. Yeah. So I think it's the tailored health to your individual needs because it's not a one-size-fits-all. Yeah. And so I'm seeing a huge trend. And we, we have seen that even in the Medispa where people are wanting more. They don't just come to get their skin treatment. They're like, "Well, I've got this issue. I've got that issue." So we're seeing a lot of tailored health. I feel like that and **more mental wellness**. So I don't want to say mental health because they're very different. But I think mental wellness, meditation.

Well, I just think the world is so fast and there's no disconnection anymore. You're on 24/7. And people have had enough. So what I'm seeing is people are saying, "I'm actually setting a boundary and I'm switching off. And I'm disconnecting to now reconnect into my life and focus on my own health." Yep. Yeah. That's what I'm seeing.

Oh, really?

Do you see, I, I see it's already going like that.

Yes.

Mhm.

Yeah. That's separate.

I think bedside manner. Yeah.

Yeah.

True. You're going to be okay. You're going to be fine. They can probably program to be even nicer than some doctors.

It is. Yeah.

Thank you.